Beaucoup de on dit que, mais on dit aussi que le contraire est vrai...
J'ai l'impression que GW a resséré sa politique de confidentialité parce que les infos sont assez rares en ce moment. Les employés qui abreuvaient warseer de goodies ont du se faire taper sur les doigts.
CITATION
In an attempt to quell the hungry rumour leeches out there, and to kill some down-time at work, I have attempted to compile Apocalypse rumours.
I will further attempt to update this post with things I may (and probably have) missed.
Please ensure you read this post fully, and check all other posts since it was last edited before asking a question. Thank you.
Apocalypse Rules:
Release is rumoured to be October with pre-release on GD UK
Rules for games of 3000+ points
Some say it’s a Huge book (almost if not as big as the Rulebook)
Others say it’s as big as Cities of Death
Some have mentioned the possibility of multiple editions
Super-heavy tank rules. Most say they are in the main book. Some say they could be in a future supplement. They will supposedly work almost exactly the same way as in the Forge World books, but it’s been reported they “tend to explode in a more spectacular fashion”
Warlord, Revenant and possibly other Titans will supposedly see rules. It has been suggested that models will be forthcoming, but not until plastic technology catches up with requirements (ie a LONG way off)
Some say Fliers didn’t make the cut, whilst others insist they are in the book including the Thunder Hawk, the Lightning and the Valkyrie and that they now do not leave the table.
Hydra Flack Tanks (and possibly other AA options) are supposedly in the book
A weapon strength will possibly have the option of saying D (for death) meaning any hit by a weapon with strength D kill the affected model.
Games will reportedly not use the FOC and possibly not Points limits
Some insist points are still used and that a player with fewer points can restore balance through using extra stratagems
An Orbital Bombardment with 6 linked Ordinance templates (or a special new template) has been mentioned as a possible stratagem
Some rules simplifications have been hinted at, such as any weapon of S7+ ignores armour saves entirely
There have been rumours of ally lists; ie SM & guard, Chaos & orks etc.
Some have suggested an Eye Of Terror style Order and Disorder division.
Taking “Formations” of units could reportedly provide in-game bonuses. For example:
-10 Leman Russ tanks earns you a command tank that helps to ignore crew shaken/stunned effects
-A triangle of 3 (some say up to 5) Necron monoliths generate a field protecting whatever is inside in some way.
-Imperial Guard can field Ogryn Auxiliary Companies, consisting of 3 squads of 5 Ogryns, giving the player a free command squad, and commissars may be attached directly to the units.
-SM Land Speeders can act as “spotters” for Whirlwinds, giving them unlimited range.
-Special Markerlight options for squadrons of 3 + hammerheads
These options might come in the form of stratagems
-Space Marine Counsel with individual members suppling bonuses such as flanking manoeuvres etc.
-Bonesinger may get rules
- Tau may get a formation of one command unit, and body guard. 3 crisis suit units, and a number of stealth suites.
-Marines may be able to take 3 vindicators as a unit allowing them to target the same point, getting a 10 inch template.
-Abaddon may be able to take a very large Terminator retinue
Models:
Baneblade
New Baneblade done, painted and being used in Studio games
Some say it is 1 inch larger than the FW one all round. Some say 1 inch smaller.
Reports tell of 3 additional variants:
- Different turret option (some say Yarrick’s personal Baneblade)
- Chaos (some say Nurgle specific)
- Ork
The hull has supposedly been designed with empty sections to make it easier to convert
Price rumoured to be between £50 and £100 with £60 seeming to be favourite
Ork Stompa
A large kit by Aly Morrison. Reportedly 8 Sprues
Supposedly put on hold until they can work out how to get it onto fewer sprues.
Drop Pods
The usual “problems in production” excuse. Expect to see as a later release maybe with the Blood Angels or Space Wolves Codex whenever they come.
Supposedly there are 3 options
- Standard
- Deathwind
- Dreadnought
Trygon
Not much known. A possible future release.
Valkyrie
A model was seen, but never intended for release. It was made to test the large model production systems.
It’s a possible future release if sales of other large models are good, as they already have it scanned into the computer.
Space Marine Battle Company
Includes parts for the following:
- 6 Tactical squads
- 2 Assault Squads
- 2 Devastator Squads
- Command Squad
- Dreadnought
- Land Raider
- Predator
- "Extra stuff" like decals
comes in a big wooden crate
Possibility of a bigger, direct-only box containing the sprues for 400+ marines but with just the sprues.
There is also talk of other Multi-tank boxes.
I will further attempt to update this post with things I may (and probably have) missed.
Please ensure you read this post fully, and check all other posts since it was last edited before asking a question. Thank you.
Apocalypse Rules:
Release is rumoured to be October with pre-release on GD UK
Rules for games of 3000+ points
Some say it’s a Huge book (almost if not as big as the Rulebook)
Others say it’s as big as Cities of Death
Some have mentioned the possibility of multiple editions
Super-heavy tank rules. Most say they are in the main book. Some say they could be in a future supplement. They will supposedly work almost exactly the same way as in the Forge World books, but it’s been reported they “tend to explode in a more spectacular fashion”
Warlord, Revenant and possibly other Titans will supposedly see rules. It has been suggested that models will be forthcoming, but not until plastic technology catches up with requirements (ie a LONG way off)
Some say Fliers didn’t make the cut, whilst others insist they are in the book including the Thunder Hawk, the Lightning and the Valkyrie and that they now do not leave the table.
Hydra Flack Tanks (and possibly other AA options) are supposedly in the book
A weapon strength will possibly have the option of saying D (for death) meaning any hit by a weapon with strength D kill the affected model.
Games will reportedly not use the FOC and possibly not Points limits
Some insist points are still used and that a player with fewer points can restore balance through using extra stratagems
An Orbital Bombardment with 6 linked Ordinance templates (or a special new template) has been mentioned as a possible stratagem
Some rules simplifications have been hinted at, such as any weapon of S7+ ignores armour saves entirely
There have been rumours of ally lists; ie SM & guard, Chaos & orks etc.
Some have suggested an Eye Of Terror style Order and Disorder division.
Taking “Formations” of units could reportedly provide in-game bonuses. For example:
-10 Leman Russ tanks earns you a command tank that helps to ignore crew shaken/stunned effects
-A triangle of 3 (some say up to 5) Necron monoliths generate a field protecting whatever is inside in some way.
-Imperial Guard can field Ogryn Auxiliary Companies, consisting of 3 squads of 5 Ogryns, giving the player a free command squad, and commissars may be attached directly to the units.
-SM Land Speeders can act as “spotters” for Whirlwinds, giving them unlimited range.
-Special Markerlight options for squadrons of 3 + hammerheads
These options might come in the form of stratagems
-Space Marine Counsel with individual members suppling bonuses such as flanking manoeuvres etc.
-Bonesinger may get rules
- Tau may get a formation of one command unit, and body guard. 3 crisis suit units, and a number of stealth suites.
-Marines may be able to take 3 vindicators as a unit allowing them to target the same point, getting a 10 inch template.
-Abaddon may be able to take a very large Terminator retinue
Models:
Baneblade
New Baneblade done, painted and being used in Studio games
Some say it is 1 inch larger than the FW one all round. Some say 1 inch smaller.
Reports tell of 3 additional variants:
- Different turret option (some say Yarrick’s personal Baneblade)
- Chaos (some say Nurgle specific)
- Ork
The hull has supposedly been designed with empty sections to make it easier to convert
Price rumoured to be between £50 and £100 with £60 seeming to be favourite
Ork Stompa
A large kit by Aly Morrison. Reportedly 8 Sprues
Supposedly put on hold until they can work out how to get it onto fewer sprues.
Drop Pods
The usual “problems in production” excuse. Expect to see as a later release maybe with the Blood Angels or Space Wolves Codex whenever they come.
Supposedly there are 3 options
- Standard
- Deathwind
- Dreadnought
Trygon
Not much known. A possible future release.
Valkyrie
A model was seen, but never intended for release. It was made to test the large model production systems.
It’s a possible future release if sales of other large models are good, as they already have it scanned into the computer.
Space Marine Battle Company
Includes parts for the following:
- 6 Tactical squads
- 2 Assault Squads
- 2 Devastator Squads
- Command Squad
- Dreadnought
- Land Raider
- Predator
- "Extra stuff" like decals
comes in a big wooden crate
Possibility of a bigger, direct-only box containing the sprues for 400+ marines but with just the sprues.
There is also talk of other Multi-tank boxes.
Et pour ma traduction ( qui vaut ce qu'elle vaut, libre au bilingue de repasser derrière)
Dans le but de combler l’appétit des amateurs de rumeur qui trainent ici et pour occuper mes temps morts au taf je vais résumer les rumeurs sur Appocalypse.
Je vais ensuite essayer de tenir ce post à jour avec les chose que j’ai du oublier ou raté.
Assurez vous de lire ce post jusqu’au bout avant de poser des questions. Merci.
Les règles Apocalypse :
La rumeur annonce la sortie en octobre avec une pré-sortie pour le GD UK.
Les règles sont faite pour des batailles au-delà de 3000pts
Certain dise que c’est un gros livre ( peut être aussi gros que le GBN)
D’autres disent que c’est aussi gros que Cities of Death.
Certain on mentionné la possibilité de plusieurs éditions.
Les règles pour les Super-heavy.
La plupart s’accordent pour dire que ce sera dans le livre principal. D’autres disent que ca pourrait être dans un futur supplément. Ça fonctionnera très probablement de façon identique ; aux règles de FW mais il a été rapporté qu’ils envisageaient d’explorer un aspect plus spectaculaire.
Warlord, Revenant et probablement d’autres.
Les Titans auront supposément des règles. Il a été suggéré que des modèles étaient à prévoir mais pas avant que la technologie de fabrication en plastique ne satisfasse aux exigences de tels modèles (c'est-à-dire pas avant longtemps).
Certains disent que les volants non pas été retenus alors que d’autres insistent pour dire qu’ils sont dans le livre, y compris le thunderhawk, le lightning et le Valkyrie et que maintenant il ne qui pas la table.
Le tank antiaérien Hydra (et certainement d’autres AA) sont supposés être dans le livre.
La force d’une arme pourra possiblement indiquer un D ( pour death i.e Mort) signifiant que chaque touche avec une arme avec force D tue les figurines affectées.
GW n’utilisera pas, selon certain, le système traditionnel de shéma d'armée et peut être pas de limite de points.
Certain insistent sur le fait que les points seront toujours utilisés et qu’un joueur avec moins de points pourrait rétablir l’équilibre en utilisant des stratagème supplémentaires.
Un bombardement orbital avec 6 gabaries d’artillerie jumelés ( ou un nouveau gabarie)a été mentionné comme un probable nouveau stratagème.
Certaines simplification des règles seraient opérées, comme le fait que toutes armes de force 7+ ignore complètement les sauvegardes d’armure.
Il y a des rumeurs à propos de listes alliées ( genre Gi –SM ou Ork Chaos)
Certain ont suggéré quelque chose dans le genre de Œil de la Terreur, avec une division Force de l’ordre et du désordre.
Prendre des « Formations » d’unités pourraient offrir des bonus pour le jeu. Par exemple :
10 Leman Russ offriraient un char de commandement qui aiderait à ignorer les effets d’équipage sonné.
-Un triangle de 3 (certain parlent de 5) monolithes générerait un champ protecteur protégeant tout ce qui se trouve à l’intérieur.
- La GI pourrait disposer de compagnies auxiliaires Ogrym constituées de 3 escouades de 5 ogryns, donnant au joueur une escouade de commandement gratuite, et les commissaires pourraient être rattachés directement aux escouades.
- Les Land Speeders SM peuvent agir comme “spotters” pour les Whirlwinds, leur donnant une portée illimitée.
-Des options spéciales de Markerlight pour les escadrons de plus de 3hammerheads
Cette option pourrait être offerte sous la forme de Stratagème.
-Un conseil SM avec des membres individuel apporte des bonus comme des manœuvre de contournement,etc.
-Le chanteur de moëlle devrait avoir des règles.
- Les Tau pourraient avoir une formation composé d’une unité de commandement, et de gardes du corps, 3 crisis et un certain nombre de Stealth.
- Les Marines seraient cappable de prendre 3 vindicators comme une seule unité leur permettant de viser le même point avec un gabarie de 10’’.
-Abaddon pourrait prendre une suite composé de très nombreux Terminator.
Figurines:
Baneblade
Un nouveau baneblade est fait et utilisé dans les studios de Games.
Certains disent qu’il est 1’’ de plus que le FW sur chaque coté, d’autre 1’’ de moins.
On parle de 3 variantes additionnelles :
- Differente options de tourelles. (certain parle de Baneblade personnel de Yarrick)
- Chaos (On parle de Nurgle)
- Ork
La carrosserie à certainement été faite avec des sections vides pour faciliter les conversions.
La rumeur pour le prix annonce entre £50 et £100 avec £60 comme supposition favorite.
Ork Stompa
Un gros kit par Aly Morrison. On parle de 8 grappes.
Supposément mis de coté pour le moment le temps de trouver un moyen de le faire avec moins de grappes.
Drop Pods
L’habituelle excuse des « problèmes à la production » Attendu pour une sortie tardive avec le codex BA ou SW lorsqu’ils sortiront.
Apparemment il y aurait 3 options
- Standard
- Deathwind
- Dreadnought
Trygon
Pas grand-chose maintenant. Peut être une future sortie.
Valkyrie
Une figurine à été vue, mais jamais prévue pour une sortie. Elle avait été faite pour tester le système de production des grosses pièces. C’est une future sortie possible si les ventes des autres gros modèles sont bonnes vu qu’ils l’on déjà toute prête dans leurs ordis.
Compagnie de bataille SM :
Inclus les pièces pour :
- 6 escouades tactiques.
- 2 escouades d’assaut
- 2 Devastator
- Escouade de commandement
- Dreadnought
- Land Raider
- Predator
- "Extra stuff" genre décalcos.
Viendrait dans une grosse boite en bois
Possibilité d’une boite plus grosse, uniquement accessible via VPC contenant les grappes pour plus de 400 marines mais juste les grappes.
Il est enfin question de boite Multi-tank.
